Eickemeyer’s observations re political opinions

Question: In your judgment, what were the political viewpoints of Hans Scholl, his sister Sophie Scholl, the artist Wilhelm Geyer, the physiotherapist Harald Dohrn, and the medical students Alexander Schmorell and Willi Graf?

Answer: Hans Scholl definitely was not a disciple of National Socialism. I could see in him clear antagonism to National Socialist ideology, but I never could see that he was thinking about ways to overthrow the National Socialist government or eliminate its leaders. He had a very impassioned manner of speaking and championed decidedly Protestant [religious] views. I never would have believed him capable of treasonous activities punishable by death.

I knew his sister Sophie Scholl as a very quiet student [Note 1]. I could see that religion was a particular problem for her. She is the last person I would ever have suspected of treasonous activity.

I believe the artist Wilhelm Geyer is a completely apolitical person. From the very beginning, I trusted him implicitly. He believes himself to be a good Catholic. From what he has told me, I gather that he had no credible knowledge of any treasonous activity of the Scholl siblings etc.

In my opinion, Harald Dohrn is a man who views life skeptically and represents no firm political point of view. However, everything interests him. He is also a fanatical Catholic. I do not consider him either capable of or willing to undertake actions aimed against the current regime.

With regards to the two medical students Alexander Schmorell and Willi Graf I cannot make any judgments about their political viewpoints. I believe Schmorell is half-Russian. Christoph Probst made a good impression on me. I never would have believed him capable of treasonous activities punishable by death. …

As long as I met with Hans Scholl, he never mentioned one word of this to me; he never said that he and his sister were considering ways to overthrow the current regime.

I can only recall that he once said to me that he would like to see the same kind of government [here] as they have in Switzerland [federalism]. This statement alone was enough to convince me that Scholl’s views were childish and youthful.

That’s also why I enjoyed Scholl’s the open, free nature of the circle of persons around Scholl and why I welcomed their friendship. In comparison to the people around him, Scholl was far more reserved.

Recently Geyer told me the same thing about Scholl and added that a certain personal vanity was at play in his (Scholl’s) life. I considered everything that happened in my presence and in my studio to be harmless and never considered that any of it could have legal consequences. For this reason, I am sure that I am not legally responsible for the treasonous behavior of Hans Scholl etc.

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Note 1: Studentin, not Schülerin. In other words, he did not insult her status.

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Source: Second interrogation of Manfred Eickemeyer, April 7, 1943

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