I can only keep repeating that I do not personally know the student who called out to me and said that he could not come that evening. I most certainly was standing in close proximity to him when this shout emanated from him. Continue reading
On February 18, 1943 around 11 am [Note 1], I along with KS Ammer was responsible for transporting the prisoner named Scholl from the university to the police station. Directly in front of the entrance to the university, Scholl suddenly turned to his right and said to a man something along the lines of: “Tell him I won’t be coming home this evening!” Continue reading
Now I will return to February 18, 1943, when Hans Scholl was taken into custody at the university for suspicion of distributing treasonous leaflets.
As I have already stated, Scholl and I spoke a day or two earlier about setting out the remaining leaflets, perhaps at the University of Munich. We did not make any more specific plans regarding when this was to take place or who should carry it out. Continue reading
Supplementary Volume I
Secret State Police [Gestapo] – Munich, February 18, 1943
State Police Headquarters, Munich Continue reading
I also knew that Aicher would be arriving on the local train from Solln around 11:30 am, which is why I wanted to meet him at the Holzkirchner train station. Continue reading
Question: During the course of the interrogation, I have shown you a shawl now and again and asked you whether it belongs to you or your brother, or whether you know who the owner of the shawl may be. Continue reading
When Scholl was apprehended, this draft [of the seventh leaflet] was found in the pocket of his clothes [Note 1]. Continue reading
Schmauβ: The University of Munich’s Chief Privy Councilor Hefner immediately advised the State Police Headquarters in Munich of this incident. They immediately occupied the university building (which had been sealed off in the meantime), together with a large number of municipal police officials. Several hundred leaflets with the inscriptions “Fellow Students!” or “German Students” were seized in the university building. Continue reading
As I made my usual rounds throughout the university buildings today, February 18, 1943 around 11:15 am, and in so doing went down the stairs of the Lichthof [Note 1], I saw that a large amount of paper had been thrown from the Lichthof platform on the third floor [Note 2]. From where I stood, I could not see the place the paper was thrown from. But it was equally impossible for whoever was in the third floor hallway to see me without further ado. Continue reading
On February 18, 1943 around 11 am, the trustee of the university called the State Police Headquarters, because an operation to scatter leaflets were taking place at the time. Two suspicious persons were supposedly apprehended by the university employee Schmidt. Continue reading
When I then got to the university entrance, I learned from the students gathered there that no one could leave the university.
Statement made by Jakob Schmid on February 18, 1943:
I took them [Note 1] to the property management office. Together with the supervisor, Secr. Scheidhammer, I led the detainees to the legal representative/trustee, RR Hefner, who informed the police. The detectives frisked the students whom I had detained. In so doing, they found several leaflets (folded) in the pockets of the male student. They secured these. In addition, I had observed that the male student had dropped several scraps of paper on the floor, or rather that he tried to drop the paper so it mingled with other papers in the room. Continue reading
… I picked up one of these leaflets and stuck it in the inside pocket of my coat without reading it. It was only later, namely while I was being held in the trustee, that I read this leaflet. … Continue reading
My brother and I accompanied this man (we did not resist), the university’s maintenance man Jakob Schmied (sic), to the offices of the university trustee Dr. Häfner (sic). Continue reading
I had hardly finished doing so when I observed that the janitor was trying to follow us up to the third floor [German second floor]. And indeed, my sister and I were only a few meters away from the spot where I had thrown the leaflets before this man came up to us, declared that we were under arrest, and told us to our face that we had just thrown leaflets into the Lichthof. Continue reading
Question: Where were you, when you were detained by a university employee?
Answer: At that time, I was on the third floor, namely in the left corridor seen from the entrance on Ludwig Street, therefore in the southwest section of the university. I do not know if the Romance [Neo-Latin] Institute is located near that site. … Continue reading
On the occasion of their apprehension in the university, Sofie Scholl hid the key to this storage in the upholstery of an ottoman in Room 238 of the university.
Note: As best as we could determine, Room 238 was possibly the women’s restroom. If anyone has better information, please post!
Source: ZC13267, Geith’s memorandum dated February 21, 1943
Scholl was taken into temporary custody in the University of Munich on February 18, 1943 around 11 am for suspicion of disseminating the leaflets “Fellow Students!”. He was then taken to the prison of the State Police Headquarters in Munich.
As already mentioned, we paused on the way up the stairs to pick up leaflets and to briefly read them as we continued to walk. That slowed our pace even further. Just as we had decided to go downstairs – from the third to the second floor – a man stormed up to us, grabbed my brother by the arm and said, “I place you under arrest!” … Continue reading
On February 18, 1943, he [Hans Scholl] and his sister also scattered additional inflammatory leaflets. On this occasion, he was observed by the witness Schmied (sic) and was apprehended. [Note 1] … Continue reading
Schmauβ: On February 18, 1943 around 11:15 am, Jakob Schmid, who resides at Türken Str. 33/I and is the maintenance man employed by the University of Munich, was making his rounds. He noticed that a large quantity of leaflets were thrown off the third floor platform of the university’s Lichthof. Schmid immediately made his way to the place in question and determined that the student Hans Scholl and his sister Sophie Scholl were the presumptive perpetrators, since no one else was nearby. Continue reading
When I saw the leaflets stacked there on the third floor, I immediately knew that these had to be the same leaflets that my brother and I had found on the stairs and on the entrance to the second floor. As I walked by, I gave the stack of papers that were on the balustrade a little shove, so they fluttered to the ground into the Lichthof. Continue reading
In my high spirits or stupidity I made the mistake of throwing about 80 – 100 leaflets from the third floor down into the Lichthof, whereupon my brother and I were discovered.
Question: Did you see leaflets in any other place inside the university today?
Answer: Yes. Namely on the balustrade on the third floor, near the columns of the stairwell. Continue reading
From there [second floor, German first floor] we went up to the third floor (left-hand side) where I threw the rest of my leaflets over the balustrade into the Lichthof. Continue reading
Question: While inside the university, were you always accompanied by your sister?
Answer: Yes. She had just as little to do in the university as I did. Continue reading
I am aware that this morning, leaflets were distributed in the university. When the lecture was over with, I saw a stack of white papers in front of the door to the lecture hall. However, I did not concern myself with the papers, because I had to go to the university office to pick up my [student] ID.
When we – that is, I – left the lecture, there was a pile of these leaflets in front of the door. I immediately knew that these leaflets came from Hans Scholl. Continue reading
At this point, my sister and I turned around and went back up to the second floor [German first floor], where I continued to set out stacks of leaflets. Continue reading
When we arrived there [university], I initially wanted my sister to wait for me at the entrance. I finally realized that it was practical to walk around the university building together with my sister and to undertake the distribution of the leaflets together. Continue reading
Mahler: “On February 18, 1943, Hans and Sofie Scholl distributed around 1500 leaflets entitled ‘Fellow Students!’ in the university, as well as between 50-80 pieces of the leaflet entitled ‘German Students!’ Almost all of these were seized.”
Source: ZC13267, Mahler’s report dated February 19, 1943.
Question: What did the suitcase contain that you were carrying today?
Answer: Nothing. The suitcase was empty. Continue reading
Question: Due to the circumstances under which you were apprehended in the university, you and your brother are currently under strong suspicion of having brought the leaflets in question into the university inside the suitcase and distributed them there. There are a number of circumstances that justify this suspicion. I hereby strongly advise you to tell the unqualified truth specifically with regards to this question, without consideration of contingent minor details. Continue reading
I would also like to tell the truth about the events in the University of Munich this morning. I hereby confess that my brother and I brought these leaflets into the university in the suitcase that was confiscated upon our apprehension. We also scattered the leaflets. Continue reading
As we neared Prof. Huber’s lecture hall, the lecture was not quite ended. Therefore I and my brother went up one more flight of stairs so I could show him the Psychological Institute where I often attend lectures. Continue reading
We walked down the right-hand side of Ludwig Street to the university and arrived there around 10:45 am. I do not know the exact time when we arrived. There was one or the other lecture that I did not want to attend today, since I am currently studying for my boards. Continue reading
When we entered the university building, my brother and I met several male and female students on the stairs to the second floor. They were just leaving Dr. Huber’s lecture. Continue reading
Question: Did you meet anyone you knew on the way from your apartment to the university?
Answer: I did not meet anyone on the way, but directly in front of the entrance to the university on Ludwig Street, I met the medical student Willi Graf (resides at Mandl Str. 1 c/o Bersche [sic]) and the medical student Traude [sic] Lafrenz, residence unknown. Continue reading
Willi Graf and Traute Lafrenz had left the lecture 10 minutes before its conclusion. I also did not see them at the university later. I do not know whether they took part in the distribution at the university. Continue reading
I had to leave the lecture about 10:50 am, because I had to be in the neurology clinic on Nussbaum Street by 11:15 am. I did not see the Scholl siblings when I left the university. If I had encountered them, it would not have escaped my notice, because it is not often that people enter the university carrying a suitcase.