Huber-Grimminger confrontation

II A/So. [Special Commission]

Munich, March 6, 1943

Result of the confrontation [Note 1] between Prof. Kurt Huber, born October 24, 1893 in Chur, currently in custody, and Eugen Grimminger, born July 29, 1892 in Crailsheim.

During the confrontation, Prof. Huber made the following statements:

I must confirm my statement from March 4, 1943, in which I alleged that I have seen the man I am confronted with on at least one occasion in connection with Scholl. I can clearly remember that I together with Scholl was face to face with this man, although today is the first time I know his name. This confrontation strengthens my statement, because I can recall him now better than before because of the Swabian dialect the man speaks.

I only have doubts regarding whether I saw this man on the occasion of the farewell party in Eickemeyer’s studio, or in Scholl’s apartment.

When I am expressly asked and after thoughtful consideration, I can say that I would be willing to strengthen my statement by swearing an oath. In the contrary case I would reproach myself for perjuring myself. In general, I don’t have a very good memory for faces, but in this case I know for a fact that I am not mistaken.

Recorded: Signed by Geith, KS.

Read and signed: Kurt Huber.

Eugen Grimminger made the following statements to the above:

I must still insist that I do not know this man personally. I have not been to Munich in about 10 years.

/Signed: Schmauβ/, Crim. Secr. [Note 2]

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Note 1: The entire document had a black line down the side, indicating the Gestapo agent or agents deemed it of high importance. And again, the clerk alternated between single space and 1.5 spacing.

Note 2: The document was not signed by Eugen Grimminger, merely by Agent Schmauß.

Editor’s note: This is one of the most bizarre incidents among all the interrogations of White Rose friends. Even after the war, Eugen Grimminger insisted that he had not been to Munich in ten years, that is, that he never once visited the Scholls in Munich.

It is most likely that Professor Huber confused Eugen Grimminger with Wilhelm Geyer, since Geyer spoke with a strong Swabian accent and in fact was at the Scholls’ residence on more than one occasion, at the same time as Professor Huber.

Huber seems to have had significant difficulties with names throughout his interrogations.

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Source: Eickemeyer/Grimminger (35)