Question: Today after you were taken into custody, have you spoken with any of your acquaintances? If so, what did you talk about?
Answer: Yes. As I was being led out of the university, I ran into Gisela Schertling still inside the building. Like all the other students, she also had to wait in the university foyer until the university was re-opened. I told her these exact words: “Go home and tell Alex, if he’s there, he should not wait for me.” Continue reading
When I then got to the university entrance, I learned from the students gathered there that no one could leave the university.
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Source: Initial interrogation of Gisela Schertling, February 18, 1943
Question: Where were you, when you were detained by a university employee?
Answer: At that time, I was on the third floor, namely in the left corridor seen from the entrance on Ludwig Street, therefore in the southwest section of the university. I do not know if the Romance [Neo-Latin] Institute is located near that site. … Continue reading
I am aware that this morning, leaflets were distributed in the university. When the lecture was over with, I saw a stack of white papers in front of the door to the lecture hall. However, I did not concern myself with the papers, because I had to go to the university office to pick up my [student] ID.
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Source: Initial interrogation of Gisela Schertling, February 18, 1943
When we – that is, I – left the lecture, there was a pile of these leaflets in front of the door. I immediately knew that these leaflets came from Hans Scholl. Continue reading
Willi Graf and Traute Lafrenz had left the lecture 10 minutes before its conclusion. I also did not see them at the university later. I do not know whether they took part in the distribution at the university. Continue reading
I saw Willi in Prof. Huber’s lecture. He left 10 minutes before I did, because he had to attend a medical lecture. Continue reading
Willi Graf likewise was often in Scholl’s apartment, but not as often as Schmorell. He also worked with Hans Scholl and Schmorell. But I never knew what they were working on. Graf never brought anyone with him when he came to visit. Continue reading
On the day that the well-known event played out at the university, when Hans Scholl was arrested, I had not been at [the apartment on] Franz Josef Str. at all. Continue reading
And then came that Thursday morning, when I went to Professor Huber’s lecture. Continue reading
On that day [February 18, 1943], I went to Professor Huber’s lecture around 10:15. I met Traute Lafrenz and Willi Graf there. They also attended the lecture.
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I knew that Gisela Schertling would be in attendance at Dr. Huber’s Introduction to Philosophy lecture that was held in a lecture hall above the staircase in the right-hand side building (I do not know the room number of the lecture hall). I also knew that this lecture lasted till about 11 a.m. Continue reading
Miss Scholl was not in the lecture today, nor was her brother.
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Source: Continuation of Gisela Schertling’s February 18 interrogation
After that, I stayed in [Hans] Scholl’s apartment until around 10 pm. During that time, I did not notice that they were making any preparations for a leaflet operation (the next day) at the university.
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Around 3 pm, I returned to my apartment and stayed there till 7 pm.
After that, I met Hans and Sophie [at their apartment] on Franz Josef Str. We ate supper together at the Seehaus [Restaurant] in the English Gardens. Continue reading
Yesterday evening while eating supper at the Seehaus in the English Gardens, Gisela Schertling and I had agreed that she would meet me here in our apartment around 12 noon today so we could eat lunch together. Continue reading
Around 3 pm, I returned to my apartment and stayed there till 7 pm.
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I did not see Hans again until lunch in his apartment.
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I then went to the university alone to attend Professor Huber’s lecture.
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Hans and I left my apartment early (around 9 am) on Wednesday [February 17].
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I wanted to meet a girlfriend there. This is Miss Gisela Schertling, residing in Munich, Lindwurm Street 13/Fourth Floor c/o Wertheimer. She is also a friend of my sister Sofie Scholl. The two of them were together in Labor Service. Continue reading
That evening, Hans came to me around 9 pm (sic) and spent the night with me. When he arrived, he apologized for coming so late.
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We only had sex in my apartment. That was when Hans Scholl spent the night with me on one occasion and slept with me. That was the Tuesday before his arrest.
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I was not with Scholls the last two evenings. I must correct that. Evening before last [February 16, 1943], Hans Scholl visited me. He stayed with me all night and slept on the couch that is in my room. Since it had gotten pretty late, he did not want to go home. Continue reading
I only know that Hans Scholl visited him [Josef Söhngen] often in his bookstore on Maximilianplatz and in his apartment. Hans did not tell me anything else about this acquaintance. Continue reading
He said he had been with the bookstore owner Söhngen. He had had to make amends with him, because he had not seen him in a while. He had drunk a bottle of wine with Söhngen, namely in his residence on Maximiliansplatz. Continue reading
Sophie and I left the studio around 6 pm. After that, I immediately went to my apartment, Lindwurm Str. 13, where I stayed all night.
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After that, we went to Eickemeyer’s studio where we cleaned, because an exhibition of paintings was to be opening there [soon]. Continue reading
I did not receive any assignment to distribute the leaflets in any other manner. Hans Scholl did indeed tell me that the leaflets would be mailed and distributed at the University [of Munich] in the following days, but he did not additionally ask me to help him. Continue reading
On Tuesday, February 16, 1943, she [Gisela Schertling] and Sophie Scholl placed a larger number (around 50) [of these leaflets] in a mailbox belonging to the Reichspost at the corner of Franz Josef Str. and Leopold Str. Continue reading
She and Sophie Scholl mailed a number (about 50 pieces) of leaflets addressed to students (“Fellow Students”) on Tuesday, February 16, 1943 and therefore distributed them. Continue reading
I also knew that it would be completely useless and futile to try to convince Hans Scholl not to distribute the leaflets. Therefore I did not try to argue my viewpoint.
That is also why I did not object when Sophie Scholl took the leaflets to be mailed. When I helped her put the leaflets in the mailbox, I thought it simply had to take its course. I thought there was nothing else I could do. Continue reading
I must also admit that once Sophie Scholl and I mailed those kinds of leaflets in a mailbox at the corner of Leopold and Franz Joseph Streets. It was a lot, maybe 50. Sophie Scholl was carrying the leaflets in a briefcase. The leaflets about half-filled the briefcase. Continue reading
Sophie Scholl and I mailed a larger number of these kinds of leaflets in a mailbox at the corner of Franz Josef and Leopold Str. I did not count the leaflets. There may have been 20 (sic). It was a handful. I did not count them.
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Sophie and I left the apartment around 3 pm without telling Hans we were leaving. On that occasion, Sophie took along the briefcase with the leaflets. About half an hour later, we deposited them in the mailbox on Leopold Str. Continue reading
She additionally admits that she helped Hans Scholl hide the leaflets in the desk, and that on the following Monday (sic) she and Sophie Scholl placed around 50 leaflets in a mailbox. In so doing, she knew that they were treasonous and seditious leaflets. Continue reading
Hans Scholl showed up again that day around 1 pm.
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Once we were back at the apartment, Hans Scholl called us. He said he wanted to look me up at my apartment on Lindwurm Str. because he had needed to get some money from me for a trip to Stuttgart. But since he no longer could catch that train, he would come back to the apartment on Franz Josef Str. Continue reading
We [Sophie and Gisela] then went back to Franz Josef Str. together. Afterwards, we ate lunch at an inn [Gaststätte] on Hohenzollern Str. Continue reading
On Tuesday, I once again met Sophie Scholl at the university.
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White Rose History: January 1933 - October 1943 