Dr. Walter Petzl, Attorney-at-Law
Ritter-von-Epp Platz 12/II
Tel: 10479
Munich 2, April 15, 1943 Continue reading
Dr. Walter Petzl, Attorney-at-Law
Ritter-von-Epp Platz 12/II
Tel: 10479
Munich 2, April 15, 1943 Continue reading
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State Police Headquarters
Stuttgart, March 9, 1943
Stuttgart
Vol. No. II A – 67/43. Continue reading
Grimminger is being transferred [to Munich] via the D-Zug, departing Stuttgart at 2:29 pm, arriving in Munich at 6:02 pm, by means of individual transport.
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I 15 Js 12/43
Contents: 1 Leaflet with envelope Continue reading
Once we were back at the apartment, Hans Scholl called us. He said he wanted to look me up at my apartment on Lindwurm Str. because he had needed to get some money from me for a trip to Stuttgart. But since he no longer could catch that train, he would come back to the apartment on Franz Josef Str. Continue reading
Since the circumstances imply that this case deals with traveling perpetrators who will likely appear in other southern German locations, I have made the plain clothes police [Note 1] in Munich, Stuttgart, Karlsruhe, Nuremberg, Augsburg, Regensburg, and Würzburg aware of the material contents of the observations to date and requested their cooperation in the war-time search efforts (train inspections). Continue reading
The other time [letter written to Hetzel accommodation address] she asked how the operation (leaflet distribution) in Stuttgart had gone.
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Source: Hans Hirzel’s March 11, 1943 interrogation (excerpt)
Schmauβ: Publications of the same name [leaflets of the “Resistance Movement”] were posted in standard envelopes on on January 27 and 28, 1943 in Stuttgart.
Source: ZC13267, Schmauβ’s report dated February 20, 1943.
I only found out about Schmorell’s trip when he arrived at [Hans] Scholl’s apartment one morning at 4 am. Hans Scholl said that he had just returned from the train. It is also possible that on that occasion, Hans Scholl said that Schmorell had been staying in Stuttgart. I did not learn why Schmorell went on that trip. Continue reading
I took the letters that were designated for Stuttgart – between 600 – 700 pieces – to Stuttgart myself and mailed them there. I left on Wednesday, January 27, 1943 at 4:30 pm on an express train and arrived in Stuttgart’s main train station at 7:55 pm. Continue reading
Schmauβ: Publications of the same name [leaflets of the “Resistance Movement”] were posted in standard envelopes on January 27, 1943 in Vienna, on January 27 and 28, 1943 in Stuttgart, and likewise on January 27, 1943 in Linz/Danube.
Source: ZC13267, Schmauβ’s report dated February 20, 1943.
Mahler: According to his report, on January 27 and 28, 1943 approximately 800 leaflets were mailed in Stuttgart, and 670 were turned in (“found”).
Source: ZC13267, Mahler’s report dated February 19, 1943.
Finally, Scholl had his sister Sophia take around 1000 letters containing inflammatory material to Augsburg and Stuttgart, where she mailed them. … Continue reading
When I am asked about the participation of Sofie Scholl in our treasonous propaganda, I can honestly state that she traveled to Augsburg at the same time as I [Note 1], in order to distribute the “Call to All Germans!” leaflet. I do not know whether she went to other cities after leaving Augsburg. Continue reading
I think it was one day later when my sister Sophie Scholl traveled to Stuttgart via Augsburg with around 2000 letters ready to be mailed, so she could mail the leaflets from the post offices in those cities. Continue reading
With regards to questions on this matter, I hereby expressly state that no other persons financed our operations. I believe Schmorell had already returned from Vienna when my sister Sophie Scholl – at my request – traveled to Augsburg and Stuttgart with around 1000 leaflets. We had prepared around 200 letters for Augsburg and around 800 letters for Stuttgart. My sister mailed these letters in those cities. Continue reading
However, in this context [speaking about the accommodation address] I would not like to keep silent about the fact that I had had political conversations with Hetzel on several occasions. He would have been able to ascertain that I would be receiving letters with political content and that I had secrets to keep in that regards. Continue reading
Dear Sophie! [Note 1]
I did not receive your letter of the 21st until the 23rd around 4:45 pm. I considered taking a trip to M. [Munich], but decided not to after all, because it would be too difficult. I hope that there was not too much riding on our meeting, in particular that you did not wish to give me anything other than reports … [Note 2] Continue reading
In the other letter, I told her that I could not meet her at the train station in Ulm on Saturday, January 23, 1943 as she requested. She had ordered me to meet her on that day at a specific time at the train station in Ulm, where a Schnellzug coming from Stuttgart would arrive. Continue reading
From January 6 through 10, 1943, I was in Stuttgart for a music competition.
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Source: Hans Hirzel’s March 11, 1943 interrogation (excerpt)
I myself do not understand how I came to give Hans Scholl 500 RM for his goals. In any case, I assumed that both of them would have no need for any more money before they reached their goals. Therefore the current regime would not be harmed. Continue reading
About three weeks later (to the best of my knowledge, it was before Christmas 1942), Hans Scholl returned to my office as he had said he would, alone. He told me that he had now made connections to the university in Stuttgart. Continue reading
Scholl’s second visit occurred shortly before Christmas. I recall this because he told me he wanted to use [Christmas] vacation to take a trip. He then immediately told me that several good friends [Note 1] of his had gotten entangled in a bad situation. These were economists, officers, and partly persons in high places who were trying to bring about peace talks with Russia. Continue reading
During this visit [November 1942], Grimminger did not give us any money, rather he said that he did not have any at that moment and that Scholl should contact him later, which he did in fact successfully do 2 weeks later. Continue reading
About 8 days later, Hans Scholl traveled alone to visit Dr. Grimminger in Stuttgart to get money from him. When Scholl returned, I did not see any money, but I remember that Scholl said he had gotten RM 500 [$4,000] from Dr. Grimminger. I do not know what individual items were purchased with this money, because Sophia Scholl was the treasurer at that time. Continue reading
When I am asked when and at what opportunity I met Hans Scholl, I can make the following statement: Up till November 1942, I only knew that Hans Scholl studied medicine. I had never had a discussion with him to that point that would have allowed me to know his political attitude. … Continue reading
If I am accused of having made unclear or incomplete statements regarding the trip from Munich to Stuttgart during my previous interrogations, then I will now make a truthful statement. Continue reading
Question: In addition to you and the Scholl siblings, who financed the entire treasonous undertaking, who made funds available, and where are the remaining funds deposited? Continue reading
I would like to point out once again that I barely knew [Hans] Scholl, and in contrast, I did not know Schmorell at all. It is therefore understandable that I did not give their statements the same weight as they themselves did. In addition, the discussion lasted such a short time that it was impossible for Scholl to make comments in enough detail so that I would know precisely what they were planning. Continue reading
Additional statement made by the undersigned: Alexander Schmorell was asked what he had to say to Grimminger’s defense of himself. Schmorell stated that contrary to his statements of March 1, 1943, he actually could not recall what they had said when they asked Grimminger for money. Continue reading
To the question as to why Hans Scholl would turn precisely to me to receive money for his seditious actions: I can only reply that he probably received the tip from Robert Scholl, that is, from Hans Scholl’s father, since I had deputized for him. Hans Scholl expressed himself so clearly during his first visit that I could imagine both of them [Note 1] working to overthrow [the government]. Continue reading
When I am asked when and at what opportunity I met Hans Scholl, I can make the following statement: Up till November 1942, I only knew that Hans Scholl studied medicine. I had never had a discussion with him to that point that would have allowed me to know his political attitude. Continue reading
Since that time, we have met now and then. Scholl Senior helped me out a little at that time, so that I feel I owe him my gratitude. Scholl Senior has visited me several times in Stuttgart. We primarily talked business. Continue reading
In May 1937, I passed the CPA examinations. I currently work [as a CPA] in Stuttgart. …
I met Robert Scholl in 1919 when I was the Director of the municipal cooperative in Crailsheim. At that time, Scholl Senior was mayor of Ingersheim, which was part of my district. In 1937, we both passed the CPA examinations in Stuttgart. Continue reading
Huber was born in Switzerland. He attended the Gymnasium in Stuttgart. Childhood illnesses left him partially paralyzed [Note 1] in his joints and in his face. This resulted in a speech impediment. Huber studied musicology and philosophy. Continue reading
The personal information given previously is correct. I was born in Forchtenberg, Administrative Region Öhringen-Württemberg, where my father was mayor of the town (borough) of Forchtenberg. Continue reading